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Sketches for pendants III by hontor
Sketches for pendants III
What do you like more? :) And what animals you would like to see in this style (as decoration)? What kind of animal pendants would you hypothetically could buy or give to friends? Animals that gain the most votes will be in the next part of sketches.

Thanks in advance for your replies!

Many thanks to all who wrote the comments to the previous parts of sketches! I can not answer everyone personally, but I am very grateful to you for answers. It really helps.

Finished pendants in my Etsy shop: www.etsy.com/ru/shop/Demiurgus…

Sketches for pendants by hontor Sketches for pendants II by hontor

Pendants II by hontor New pendants by hontor New pendants Feb 2015 by hontor New pendants III by hontor
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Let's go on with the theme of plagiarism. I promised to write how I regard copying my works. The answer is: very positive. I treat this like... well, fan-art based on my creations, it's normal. If someone makes money on it - excellent, it means that the "fan-artist" is really gifted then. When someone interprets my works - it's like expanding of myself in the world. More of "me" in the Universe! What's wrong with it? Glad for it. Will I ban figurines with curves, patterns and twirls like mine? That's impossible. Can you repeat my plots? Of cause. Copy my figurines totally? With a pleasure. Sell them?
Naturally.

Why I'm so kind? Simple. If your do it bad, your activity won't harm mine. Maybe you'll learn something valuable when copying and become genius over time - I'll be proud. If your level of works is similar to mine, I'll try to invite you in my studio and we'll share orders - there's so many of them, I'll be happy if someone lift some burden from me so I can give myself to my private and experimental projects.
That principle works even if you have separate business - then customers those were unease with my refusals or prices will be able to get what they want in another place. I couldn't satisfy everyone anyway - why should I prohibit copying?

Do I need a share? Some small percent? Well, it will be nice and maybe honest, however I will not run after you with curses and cries "gimme my money!" Heh. Too busy, sorry - let your conscience be my advocate.

Is it possible to "rob" something from me this way? My technique, my style, my plots? - OMG I'll be totally looted!.. Nonsense. I'm not twirls on my figures, and I'm not a separate style. I'm not plots as well, you guess... Or you have some high technologies to steal the whole personality? Science can't do such tricks, as I know. I changed techniques and styles many times in my life, do you think it might stop one day? Well, there are hoards of plots in my head - even if I stop invent new ones, things I haven't embodied yet are enough to make me busy for the rest of my life. With years, all that was adopted from me will become archaic version of me, nice and nostalgic fan-art...
There's too many of me to be avarice and prohibit to reflect me.

However... There are two ways of using my creations those I condemn.
1. When someone show picture of my work under one's own name - not just copy my work, but take the authorship on what is done by my hands. That's the plagiarism as is.
2. When my work is used as logo of some juridical person or a part of a large business project. Please ask me first - usually it's easy to get my permission for non-commercial use or agree upon the price for commercial ones... But if you're not juridical person and your project is not commercial - you don't need even to ask. Indeed, you'll save my time if you don't! Game "avatars", personal sites, forum games, simulators, amateur movies, fan-art and non-commercial banners - all
of these is ok.

Finally, the most important thing. If someone will badger, chase or annoy people who do something "like my works", I'll kick some butts - openly. However, don't hesitate to send me links on such creative - I fond of fan-art based on me. Until you tease authors. That's not an option, please take it in account.

About plagiarismI think it's better to say once and clear the things forever.
I understand that the topic of authorship is painful for all (almost all) of creators. But sometimes people can't tell plagiarism from something that isn't, moreover - accuses others for something that isn't even an adoption.
The typical case: "Pegasus and seagulls" work of my studio. It was called "blatant ripoff" (cite) of :iconcreaturesfromel: works.

With works by this author I have a long history. But I had drawn patterns long before I saw works of Ellen June, and patterns also was my chosen way in sculpturing long before that.
Guess when I painted pictures below? The first ones are of age of 13-15, the last ones - 2007. And it was the end of 2008 when I started to work on the sculpture. It's in the limits of objectiveness to say that my "Ellen-like style" has some very authentic history and roots (or it hasn't?)

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I think it's better to say once and clear the things forever.

I understand that the topic of authorship is painful for all (almost all) of creators. But sometimes people can't tell plagiarism from something that isn't, moreover - accuses others for something that isn't even an adoption.

The typical case: "Pegasus and seagulls" work of my studio. It was called "blatant ripoff" (cite) of :iconcreaturesfromel: works.
Pegasus with Seagulls by hontor

With works by this author I have a long history. But I had drawn patterns long before I saw works of Ellen June, and patterns also was my chosen way in sculpturing long before that.

Guess when I painted pictures below? The first ones are of age of 13-15, the last ones - 2007. And it was the end of 2008 when I started to work on the sculpture. It's in the limits of objectiveness to say that my "Ellen-like style" has some very authentic history and roots (or it hasn't?)

Altar by hontor To kill a dragon - print by hontor Cheetah-space by hontor
Black Sun by hontor Dragon-Wind by hontor The prince of the Black world by hontor Edem by hontor
Erudite cat by hontor

Along with that, it's true that works of Ellen influenced me alot. There was a time I said in my heart: "this is the master I'd like to be born". I fond of her style. She works like I dreamed of. It's my Lord in sculpting. We seem to have the same ways of mind, and think of material alike - and both of us like animals and fantasy as well. That's why it took for me no more than one glance to start doing works in similar manner... These works are completely close to me not just as a superficial imitation, but as a way of thinking. To my works do not have anything similar, I need to stop being yourself.

But I never copied Ellen's works. To do that - I would need to stop being myself and throw away all the things those inspire me. Every person is unique, after all, and has personal values those can't be wasted. I (also) will never copy Ellen's works in a future. Even for non-profit uses. Just not interested in. I use my own set of techniques that grow in number with time, and I'm eager to develop them. Yes, they may resemble something you already saw. It's not me who invented feathers, curves, spirals and patterns. I have no copyrights on animals and birds; styling and decorating are not my personal tricks, but not yours as well. All the history of art stands on teaching and learning of creators - from one to another. And noone charge classic artists when they paint in similar styles. That's called "school".

So... No more rubbish about "Pegasus and Seagulls blatant ripoff", ok? "Horses and birds" composition isn't someone's personal design - you can find tens of such pictures on Deviantart using keywords search. And there's no such composition in Ellen's portfolio. She has pictures like "beast and birds" - and surrealistic, not fantasy ones.
Lybica Waiting by creaturesfromel Lybica Trotting by creaturesfromel White Lion with Birds by creaturesfromel

You know, when I was young and lived in small village, I drew dragons... And people suspected me for copying works of Vallejo. That was because people knew no fantasy artist name expect of "Vallejo". And every dragon that was drawn well was a "plagiarism of Vallejo" for them. I didn't like Vallejo. And didn't understand why I'm accused. Later I understood - that was the problem of their culture. Not my fault by any means.
Dragon Wayl by hontor-old-art Dragon Wayl3 by hontor-old-art
(my old works)

I wrote this not because I'm wounded by the "ripoff" accusation in any way. Everyone has the right to say things he or she thinks. Even if they're silly. I just take an opportunity to share with you something that is valuable for me.

Oh, you may ask - how I react if someone will make works like mine? Or use my techniques? Or... even totally copy my sculptures?

It's another big theme, so I will write about it in the next post. But the short answer is: positive.
About plagiarism IILet's go on with the theme of plagiarism. I promised to write how I regard copying my works. The answer is: very positive. I treat this like... well, fan-art based on my creations, it's normal. If someone makes money on it - excellent, it means that the "fan-artist" is really gifted then. When someone interprets my works - it's like expanding of myself in the world. More of "me" in the Universe! What's wrong with it? Glad for it. Will I ban figurines with curves, patterns and twirls like mine? That's impossible. Can you repeat my plots? Of cause. Copy my figurines totally? With a pleasure. Sell them?
Naturally.
Why I'm so kind? Simple. If your do it bad, your activity won't harm mine. Maybe you'll learn something valuable when copying and become genius over time - I'll be proud. If your level of works is similar to mine, I'll try to invite you in my studio and we'll share orders - there's so many of them, I'll be happy if someone lift some burden from me so I can give myself to my priv

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Ewgeny Hontor
Artist | Professional | Traditional Art
Russia
I make sculpture and art. I sell my sculptures. I have a shop on Etsy: www.etsy.com/shop/DemiurgusDre…
Materials and simple tutorial: hontor.deviantart.com/art/Tuto…
My Facebook: www.facebook.com/profile.php?i…


I also created the worlds. All original characters and worlds connected by a single large universe with a rich history. This is for me the most important part of my work. Your response is important to me.
I can put these texts in English with the help of friends translators. Hopefully, small flaws translation will not be too condemning.
You can read basic information about my worlds here: hontor.deviantart.com/art/Intr…
Gallery with pictures of my worlds here: hontor.deviantart.com/gallery/…

Unfortunately, I do not speak English and I use the electronic translator.
:iconworld-creations: :iconavaloncommunity:
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Let's go on with the theme of plagiarism. I promised to write how I regard copying my works. The answer is: very positive. I treat this like... well, fan-art based on my creations, it's normal. If someone makes money on it - excellent, it means that the "fan-artist" is really gifted then. When someone interprets my works - it's like expanding of myself in the world. More of "me" in the Universe! What's wrong with it? Glad for it. Will I ban figurines with curves, patterns and twirls like mine? That's impossible. Can you repeat my plots? Of cause. Copy my figurines totally? With a pleasure. Sell them?
Naturally.

Why I'm so kind? Simple. If your do it bad, your activity won't harm mine. Maybe you'll learn something valuable when copying and become genius over time - I'll be proud. If your level of works is similar to mine, I'll try to invite you in my studio and we'll share orders - there's so many of them, I'll be happy if someone lift some burden from me so I can give myself to my private and experimental projects.
That principle works even if you have separate business - then customers those were unease with my refusals or prices will be able to get what they want in another place. I couldn't satisfy everyone anyway - why should I prohibit copying?

Do I need a share? Some small percent? Well, it will be nice and maybe honest, however I will not run after you with curses and cries "gimme my money!" Heh. Too busy, sorry - let your conscience be my advocate.

Is it possible to "rob" something from me this way? My technique, my style, my plots? - OMG I'll be totally looted!.. Nonsense. I'm not twirls on my figures, and I'm not a separate style. I'm not plots as well, you guess... Or you have some high technologies to steal the whole personality? Science can't do such tricks, as I know. I changed techniques and styles many times in my life, do you think it might stop one day? Well, there are hoards of plots in my head - even if I stop invent new ones, things I haven't embodied yet are enough to make me busy for the rest of my life. With years, all that was adopted from me will become archaic version of me, nice and nostalgic fan-art...
There's too many of me to be avarice and prohibit to reflect me.

However... There are two ways of using my creations those I condemn.
1. When someone show picture of my work under one's own name - not just copy my work, but take the authorship on what is done by my hands. That's the plagiarism as is.
2. When my work is used as logo of some juridical person or a part of a large business project. Please ask me first - usually it's easy to get my permission for non-commercial use or agree upon the price for commercial ones... But if you're not juridical person and your project is not commercial - you don't need even to ask. Indeed, you'll save my time if you don't! Game "avatars", personal sites, forum games, simulators, amateur movies, fan-art and non-commercial banners - all
of these is ok.

Finally, the most important thing. If someone will badger, chase or annoy people who do something "like my works", I'll kick some butts - openly. However, don't hesitate to send me links on such creative - I fond of fan-art based on me. Until you tease authors. That's not an option, please take it in account.

About plagiarismI think it's better to say once and clear the things forever.
I understand that the topic of authorship is painful for all (almost all) of creators. But sometimes people can't tell plagiarism from something that isn't, moreover - accuses others for something that isn't even an adoption.
The typical case: "Pegasus and seagulls" work of my studio. It was called "blatant ripoff" (cite) of :iconcreaturesfromel: works.

With works by this author I have a long history. But I had drawn patterns long before I saw works of Ellen June, and patterns also was my chosen way in sculpturing long before that.
Guess when I painted pictures below? The first ones are of age of 13-15, the last ones - 2007. And it was the end of 2008 when I started to work on the sculpture. It's in the limits of objectiveness to say that my "Ellen-like style" has some very authentic history and roots (or it hasn't?)

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:icondarkwood-creatures:
Darkwood-Creatures Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2015  Professional Artisan Crafter
Your sculptures are so beautiful!!
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mdlillustration Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2015  Professional General Artist
Hey thank you very much for accepting the request for my new group!
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HopperWulf Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2015
Your sculptures are absolutely amazing!
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XxSpitfire9393 Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Love your work! Keep on doing this awesome figures.. and perhaps a mask again like the fox :)
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pkuji Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2015
Congratulations, very great job
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:iconliennepien:
Liennepien Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Awesome work!
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DraftHorseTrainer Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I found your cool sculptures on Etsy. And its so cool to find you here on DA too! :w00t:
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Rheamoon Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2015  Student General Artist
Amazing!!! I think I did see your etsy shop some time in the past...I know your style ;) LOVE your creations!!!
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vulcangirl14 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2015
I just saw your Albino Nightfury and decided to look about your stuff and it's amazing.
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KseniaSh Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2015  Professional Traditional Artist
потрясающие работы!
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